Courts Against Healthcare Bill

I saw the headline on my Comcast homepage.  Courts are declaring Obama’s Healthcare Bill unconstitutional.  I understand the idea that it’s unconstitutional to make people buy something if they don’t want it.  I don’t want to argue that, or argue at all.  It just seems like fighting a war against something that is basically benign.

If people walk around without insurance and then something serious happens (like needing open heart surgery, getting shot at a public community event, flipping your car on the interstate, or finding a lump in your breast) they may be left bankrupt with tax dollars picking up their tabs.  So is it really all that bad that people are asked to buy insurance to save themselves and their fellow citizens this heartache?  Of course, I recognize this is face value and it is probably a lot more complicated.  I’m also sort of obsessed with the safety and security that comes with insurance-whether or not I’m actually all that protected because of it.

I think there are some really positive things in this bill that will go out the window if it is declared Unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.  I mean if everyone has to buy insurance, won’t companies have to insure them?  So people who have been desperate for insurance for years but have been unable to qualify because of pre-existing conditions will finally be able to be covered.  It will help a lot of people.  It will even help people who don’t think they want to be helped.  Isn’t it possible there could be a general feeling of wow, we should have done this years ago?

It just seemed to me that all through the years and during election time people always talk about healthcare and insurance issues.  There are probably more people walking a line with the possibility of one terrible accident or horrible sickness destroying them financially than there are people who will never have to worry about how they’ll pay a hospital bill should they need to.  Of course as I say this I realize the Baby Boomers are starting to turn 65 this year, so that probably makes that statement false or at least will in the next ten years.

I’m mostly just so tired of these games.  Why are we using money, time, and resources to fight this?  It was an enormous compromise from where the whole  thing began.  At this point in the debate do average everyday citizens even know what’s so bad about the bill?  And more importantly at this point, considering it was voted in last year, do they even care?  I suppose they care if their side tells them to.  I really think the only thing that matters to our leaders anymore is political capitol.


11 thoughts on “Courts Against Healthcare Bill

  1. Renee February 1, 2011 / 7:47 am

    I guess the real question is, how much of your freedom, liberty and life are you willing to give up to the government to control? Today, it’s requiring people to buy a product simply because they happen to be alive. If this is allowed, what’s next?

    We have a Constitution and if we throw it out the window every time what’s in it is inconvenient, then why bother having it anymore at all?

    • lesleehorner February 1, 2011 / 8:37 am

      I just wish there was a way to throw the bath water out and keep the baby as far as this bill goes. But if I understand correctly if this is found unconstitutional the whole thing goes. If it’s not apparent I worry about the “pre-existing condition” stuff a lot. I just wish there was a way to do something to make insurance readily available to everyone who wants it.

      • Renee February 1, 2011 / 8:46 am

        No doubt there need to be changes, but this isn’t the way to do it. The people who drafted this bill knew what the result would be and they still tied the entire thing into this one issue.

        That makes me think the bill itself was never meant to survive, but rather was meant to be used as a political weapon.

      • lesleehorner February 1, 2011 / 9:18 am

        It’s funny that you say that because I was thinking about it a lil while ago and it occurred to me that they HAD to have known this might happen…they HAD TO HAVE!

    • meeshelleneal February 1, 2011 / 2:37 pm

      The thing is that we all need healthcare. People aren’t being forced to buy something they don’t need. They are merely putting money into something that will be there for them when they ‘do’ need it.

      My research turned up that pooled risk = pooled reward. That the US system costs people ‘more’ money because when someone can’t pay they default into bankruptcy and therefore the government has to pay for them. As well people tend to stay away from being checked up and don’t go in until the problem is a big one, which again costs more money. AND, then there are the overhead costs of each clinic/hospital etc. having to keep their own records. Here in Canada if I go to one clinic they automatically have access to my history, which prevents them from missing something major – like my allergies.

      Currently you have to buy insurance and it’s up to those companies whether or not they want you. Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone was treated equally?

      • Renee February 1, 2011 / 2:47 pm

        Michelle, it’s not about healthcare. It’s about liberty.

        And the bottom line is that the Constitution says the government cannot do this and an entire political party ignored the most important document we have because it suited their purposes. That’s why we have checks and balances.

        Everyone in this country needs to become very familiar with feudal England to truly understand why we have the rights we have and why there are limits on government.

        I just read The Lady in the Tower about the fall of Anne Boleyn. Even if you’re not interested in the subject, it’s an interesting education on the British legal system that the colonists were trying to get away from.

  2. meeshelleneal February 1, 2011 / 7:15 pm

    Ok, I see where you’re coming from – that the disrespect of the constitution is actually quite scary and disconcerting. I agree with Leslee that it would be so great to throw out the bathwater but keep the baby.

    At first glance I chalked it up to Obama merely holding up his side of a promise made to the people. We cannot know the inner workings of why things are done certain ways but quotes (like below) definitely raise serious concern:

    GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions” of the Patriot Act “could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

    “‘I don’t give a goddamn,’ Bush retorted. ‘I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.’
    “‘Mr. President,’ one aide in the meeting said. ‘There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.’
    “‘Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,’ Bush screamed back. ‘It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!'” –Reported in Capitol Hill Blue, December 9, 2005.

  3. Renee February 2, 2011 / 7:45 am

    That website isn’t the most reliable source of truth (

    That said, Bush is not a favorite amonf conservatives. Many think he was just as dangerous to the country as they think Obama is.

    The bottom line is, there were other options and ideas put forth and ignored on health care reform, so we ended up with a bill that most of the country didn’t like and that was unconstitutional. The idea that those who put it forth didn’t know that is pretty unbelievable. And if they didn’t, then that’s even scarier because they’re our country’s leaders. And Obama was/is a constitutional attorney. He should be an expert.

  4. Kasey February 2, 2011 / 8:59 pm

    We have mandatory education in this country and no one seems to think that is unconstitutional. At least not yet! Is that next or can we all agree that it is in both our individual and collective best interest to have an educated citizenry? I think that equal access to health care, too, is a right and not a privilege. That doesn’t make me a socialist. Sorry!

    • Renee February 3, 2011 / 9:43 am

      Um … unless you’re sending your kids to private school, you’re not paying (other than taxes) for their education. There’s also homeschooling, which is only slightly regulated. No one is mandated to buy something in order to be educated. College isn’t mandated.

      You’re comparing apples and oranges.

  5. Kasey February 4, 2011 / 12:08 pm

    My point is that we all pay for education through our taxes. You can homeschool or send your kids to private school, but your taxes are still going to public education. You are compelled to pay for it in much the same way we pay for infrastructure and a million other things. We don’t live in our own little bubble. We live in communities and a society in which it is essential to pool our resources for common needs. I am comfortable putting healthcare in that category.

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